Each of them a specialist in cracking mobile devices and figuring out how to protect them.It started when we logged onto the hotel Wi-Fi -- at least it looked like the hotel Wi-Fi.”John Hering: I think that most people have not really thought about their phones as computers.Sharyn Alfonsi: And that’s what you think-- it’s like having a laptop now?Jon Oberheide: With social engineering, you can’t really fix the human element.John Hering: “We’re in business.”Then Hering called from San Francisco and proved it worked.So if the hackers were listening in, they would know that phone conversation.Nohl told us the SS7 flaw is a significant risk mostly to political leaders and business executives whose private communications could be of high value to hackers.
There’s a flaw in it that allowed Nohl to intercept and record the congressman’s calls and track his movements in Washington and back home.
As soon as I called Congressman Lieu on his phone, Nohl and his team were listening and recording both ends of our conversation.
Sharyn Alfonsi: I wonder if I might talk to you about this hacking story we’re working on.
It is a little-known, but vital global network that connects phone carriers.
Sharyn Alfonsi: How much do you think people have been kind of ignoring the security of their cellphones, thinking, “I’ve got a passcode, I must be fine?